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There's not much else that needs to be said, but why let that stop me.

The decision to terminate a pregnancy involves two people: the woman whose pregnancy it is, and Nobody Else.

Abortion clinic protesters and firebombers, and other such domestic terrorists acting in the name of saving unborn babies, would be better served attacking in vitro fertilization clinics. Of course, if they did that they wouldn't get to feel all superior by shaming the dirty sluts.

Not that the anti-choicers have any semblance of moral consistency in any case.

Really, the minute you make an exception "in cases of rape or incest" you've given up on the whole "it's a child not a choice" nonsense. Murder is murder; why are you punishing an unborn child for having a rapist for a father?

Ezra Klein is a smart guy. I'm happy to see him attack the "abortion is icky" thinking that pervades a great deal of pro-choice dialogue.

Happy anniversary, RvW. May you see many more.

Blog for Choice Day - January 22, 2007

Date: 2007-01-24 06:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nixve.livejournal.com
Abortion is a choice. It is not the only choice. Pro-choice people support the availability of choices. Abortion is one of those. It happens to be the only one that is generally fought against (although birth-control and adoption have their opponents as well) so it is the main issue that pro-choice proponents have to argue for.

Also, not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. Pro-abortion implies that you would choose abortion, which maybe you wouldn't necessarily, but you can still be pro-choice in that you support making abortion available to those that may choose it.

I can't vouch for anyone other than myself but I am pro-choice and pro-abortion.
Different people will give you different answers, it depends on the person, really. Implying that all pro-choicers are cowards for not using the term "pro-abortion" is presumptuous and rather rude. Being pro-choice is not all about abortion, it just includes abortion.

Date: 2007-01-24 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dasphios.livejournal.com
Well now, that's funny, because on my home planet (Earth), it's considered presumptuous to take a phrase whose meanings could apply to virtually ANY situation and insist that its only meaning is in a narrowly specific field, when a more descriptive and more specific phrase would serve just as well- if not better. A person faces thousands of choices in everyday life. Where to go, what to do, whether and what to say. How many of those involve abortion to even the slightest extent? Do you support the availability of the choice to walk down the street shooting random people? How about the choice to rob a bank, or toss your neighbor into a pool of sulfuric acid? Or even overturn Roe v Wade? They're all choices, they're all bad ideas, and I'd frankly be very surprised if you'd even want to argue for them.
I will concede that the term "pro-abortion" could be misinterpreted as more than a legal belief, and I'll certainly admit that "pro-abortion legality" is far too cumbersome. But that doesn't mean an overgeneralized substitute is an acceptable one.

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