"the king of scots, with all his power..."

[jazzfish]

Holy crap there are present-day Jacobites.

(I predict most responses to this will be either "what?" or "WHAT?")

The world is a very strange place.

Comments

[selki.livejournal.com]

Georgette Heyer's well-researched and well-written novels have taught me a lot about English history. I got the ref and was not surprised. There are Ricardians too, after all.

[blaisepascal]

They think Elizabeth should have taken the throne in 1485? I hadn't heard of that before.

To clarify, I mean Elizabeth of York, 1444-1503, eldest sister of Richard III, not Elizabeth of York, 1466-1503, eldest daughter of Edward IV, niece of Richard III, and (then-future) wife of Henry VII.

[jazzfish]

I imagine they view Henry VII as a filthy Welsh usurper, and go around with placards on their coaches reading "ABT: Anyone But Tydder!"

[selki.livejournal.com]

Oh, I just meant by Ricardians, folks trying to clear up the historical record, as an example of folks who still feel strongly about such things hundreds of years later.

[jazzfish]

Ricardians make sense to me. Rehabilitating the image of a long-dead king is a reasonable historical pastime. These modern-day Jacobites are something else entirely. They seem to actively support the Divine Right of Kings concept, which in 2012 utterly smacks my gob.

[uilos.livejournal.com]

I get all my knowledge of the Jacobites from Sir Walter Scott.

I'd like to get into Heyer, can you point me to a good place to start, or a website with a suggested reading order? I know she was prolific and that has kind of held me back even though tons od people who's opinion I respect have good things to say about Heyer.

Georgette Heyer

[selki.livejournal.com]

Oh, tough call. I know some of her books make some folks' Heyer-favorites list and (same books) worst-Heyer books, depending on their willingness to suspend disbelief (plot contrivances), or wanting books with adventure mixed in, or mystery/Gothic, or more conventional romances (she wrote some of each). Some of her heroines are too sharp-tongued for some readers, some are too passive. Smart heroine? Not so smart heroine? If you tell me more about your tastes I can try to recommend. Short of that, I'd say my favorites to re-read, for various reasons, are Frederica, The Masqueraders, The Talisman Ring, The Quiet Gentleman, A Civil Contract, Black Sheep (not The Black Moth).

Now I want to make a table chart of the Heyer books and their respective aspects!