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Dear LJ,

Why in gord's name would you find it at all appropriate to allow-- to encourage-- people to repost LJ comments on Facebook and Twitter? Especially comments made in response to locked posts? And why would you not allow users to disable this "feature" for their journals?

("But it doesn't repost the content of the entry!" That's very slim consolation when the comment consists of "I'm so sorry to hear you and Chris are having problems!")

("But people could always do this!" Yes, but now it's far easier, with a casual disregard for privacy that I usually only expect to see from Facebook or Google.)

No love,

[personal profile] jazzfish



Seriously, LJ. WHAT THE HELL. I'm pretty casual about the connection between my LJ and my realspace identity, because I put everything I don't want coworkers or family to see behind a lock.

I'd prefer that you not repost any comments you make to locked entries in my LJ to FB or Twitter, in the same way that I'd prefer you not publicise anything I put in a locked entry. It's not, quite, a bannable/defriendable offense for me, but it's close.

Note that, as a fun side effect, this breaks the tab order in comments! Which means that if you've been commenting on entries for TEN YEARS and using a reflexive "comment, tab, enter" to post your comments, now you have to learn to add in another tab or three.

ObDWplug, and comment or email if you'd like an invite code.

Date: 2010-09-01 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
as a fun side effect, this breaks the tab order in comments

Gah! Yes. As I haven't enabled it (and don't intend to), my tab-space became tab-tab-space, so I'm still accomplishing "comment-tab-pagedown-mutter-tab-space".


Mostly, I fail to understand the draw of reposting comment content, out of context, to another service. Your own entries? Sure, whatever--but comments to other entries? If it's that all-fired awesome, cut/paste/reformat!

Date: 2010-09-01 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uilos.livejournal.com
Will be transitioning fully when I have some time this weekend.

hmm.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormking.livejournal.com
So what's involved to transferring everything to dreamwidth again?

Date: 2010-09-01 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jsciv.livejournal.com
I think I'm about to make an unpopular comment...

The post says that only public comments will be preselected to crosspost. That means (to my read) you'd have to manually choose to repost comments on a locked post. I don't see how that's "encouraging" a repost.

As to why it would be appropriate to allow them? It seems like every few weeks I get a "why are all my LJ people gone to FB" post, so the integration of LJ (which is the kind of long-form expression I enjoy) with friends who prefer FB in order to not have to repost everything seems to be something that more and more people are interested in. I may or may not make use of it often, but there HAVE been LJ posts I've linked into my FB so I'm not against the principle.

If the specific implementation has bugs, I can only hope they'll work them out, but by and large this feels more to me like a response to what a lot of people want than a privacy invasion.

Not to belabor the point, but every time I make a locked post, I'm trusting everyone behind that lock to keep that information within that circle of friends. I don't see how this changes that: if I trusted you before I should trust you now. There has never been anything to prevent a friend copying my post to their FB or to the friend I'm bitching about or whatever. If I understand it correctly, they still would have to choose to violate my trust in them, which is the same decision they've had to make before.

Oh, and I'm also a mouse clicker, so unless someone pointed out the tab thing I would never have considered that an issue. :)

Date: 2010-09-01 06:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nixve.livejournal.com
Wait, I thought you could disable it... oh, I see what you mean, the little "F" and "t" boxes below the text entry. bleh!

Date: 2010-09-01 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamnonlinear.livejournal.com
Okay, this looks like a last straw to me, since I want as little to do with facebook as possible. Got a code I might use?

Date: 2010-09-02 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
They fixed tab order! Not sure how, but it's back to tab-space now. :)

Date: 2010-09-02 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rbandrews
1. I'm going to move everything over to Dreamwidth this weekend, or maybe today, haven't decided, depends on how busy I am, etc etc blah.

2. That having been said, it should be possible to disable this if you have a paid account, and here's how: make a CSS rule in your style that finds that TR and sets display:none; on it. It won'd be in the tab order, it won't be visible on the page, and while it'll still be possible to click it (using Firebug to re-show it), it would be more effort than copy/paste (and way more than just clicking a checkbox).

Technical solutions to emotional problems for the win!

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